Saturday, October 18, 2014

Ask the Bastards #12

This question comes from Andrew:


So, I am trying to do white cloaks for my DE, I have been going with this snow theme for them, I can not get painting white down. I layer a medium grey down then try to goto white in a few stages . BUT IT LOOKS like shit. I know i am not a very good painter and i see things in my head but i cant appply it to the model. any tips or videos to help a hobbyist

Both Domus and Nicol step up to help this poor fella out!
 
Nicol:

Andrew,

Make sure you don't start with too dark of a base. I only use GW paints at the moment so I will go over what I did for my white cloaks seen in the picture for "Midnight Legion" on this Blog.

I believe the key for white is to layer it up in several thin coats. Similar to any paint, but especially important for a gray/white I have found.

Basecoat - Dawnstone
Layer - Administratum Gray For my cloaks this stage took the longest time as I believe I brought it up using 3 separate coats of paint gradually working away fr om the recesses.
Layer - 1:1 Administratum Gray, White Scar This layer was 1 or 2 depending on how it covered. Basically a quick layer to set the stage for the final layer of thinned down white.
Finaly - White Scar I did one watered down later on a good amount of the raised edges then went back and did a line highlight of not very watered down white scar on the edges of the cloak.

With these colors you can change up the mixture depending on how bright you want your white. If you want the recesses to be darker you could go back and do a 3:1 Lahmian Medium/Dawnstone wash in the recesses.

Hopefully this helps. White looks great when done right, but I have found it to be one of the most difficult colors to make look good - this and yellow.

Domus:

Andrew,

White can be tough. I've not done a ton of white but I did do a Stag and a unicorn in White for my Wood Elves. I will dig up some pics and post them to twitter for you.

The way I did it.
Start with a white basecoat and shade down instead of highlighting up.

White can be "gloopy", so you have to do quite a few layers of very thin white to get a basecoat that is smooth as silk. Otherwise, you see every damn brushstroke.

Then, take your lightest gray, thin it down and mix it with some glaze medium. Slowly paint it into the areas where the shadows would be. It's very important to let it fully dry before moving on. Use a little hairdryer if needed.

Not sure where the shadows are? I struggle with this often. Take 1 model, spray it black and then rough drybrush white. That should give you a good idea where the shadows would be left.

You are going to continue that process, and you may need to do multiple layers of the same color. You are slowly building up the color and the glaze medium will help it "blend" into the white. Keep switching to a darker tone until you get to the darkest gray you want in the shadows (*which is probably not super dark). As you go to the darker colors the area you apply the paint on will be shrinking as well.

I just find it far easier to shade white than trying to highlight white.

Hope that helps and good luck!!

Cheers!
Domus

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Rodge here. I'd also like to throw in a comment from Nabroleon: fuckin' A--I don't even know how to do white. 

Hope that helps Andrew!

1 comments:

Bitten By Snakes said...

Agree with Domus. Start with a pure white basecoat and then glaze in the shadows, getting progressively darker as you get right into the folds. Thus leaving your pure white as the highlight

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